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TOPIC: The Truth

The Truth 6 years 2 months ago #2320

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Well I’ll say lies coverup ugly for a while but ugly just won’t stay contained. Eventually it breaks free and that’s when the lies start to crumble. All the ugly truth comes out. Not that the truth is bad but sometimes it’s ugly. Yes, wealthy people have no reason to be humble. They can purchase everything they want. But some of us retain our ability to be humble. Lies even hurt those with money, sometimes it just takes a little longer for them to come to light, a little longer for the truth to reveal itself. The bigger the lie the more devastating it is no matter your economic status. I have had my share of bad experiences due to lies. I was even caught up in a web of my own lies for a short time. I saw both sides of this lie thing and lies are ugly no matter what even the little ones. I turned over a new leaf when Mason found me and when I joined the Gnostic faith. The truth literally set me free.
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The Truth 6 years 2 months ago #2321

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Mike I agree about the secret thing and I hate to say this but secrets often do become lies and the lies are always destructive. Some secrets start off with good intentions, others are sinister from the onset and those are the ones that become the most devastating of lies when they are revealed because the lies stem from the coverup. What do you think about this memo thing going on right now Mike?

Our mother caused problems because of her many falsities. The family suffered quite a bit because of it also. So, I know how devastating lying can be. I know what it did to my father so I agree lies do nothing but destroy every life in their path.
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The Truth 6 years 2 months ago #2322

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I agree with Mike about how a secret can cause a web of lies to formulate. I mean secrets can sometimes be hard to keep without at some point becoming a lie or a web of lies. I’ve seen it in my life, and in the lives of so many patients I’ve treated. I have seen how disruptive a secret can be. I think the longer a secret it kept the more it festers and it becomes worse than a lie. I think everything in the dark will eventually come to light and when the light hits a well-hidden, dark secret, it explodes devastating many lives. I’ll give an example. A patient was having marital problems and she ended up having an affair with a relative of her husband. I don’t know why she didn’t use any protection but she didn’t. She became pregnant and despite her sister and mother even, telling her to abort the baby because it was a bad thing that would only get worse, she couldn’t bring herself to do something she was so against, kill an unborn, unformed, embryo. No she would much rather bring the child into the world to be subject to the anger of both men and then blame the child for a mistake she made and a bad choice she made to keep the little girl. When it all came out the husband almost killed the relative and went to prison, leaving her to fend for herself and the child. She was abusive to the child and the father eventually was persuaded to take his daughter in. But she grew up knowing she was a product of infidelity. I saw this patient not long ago, years after all this happened and I couldn’t believe my eyes. She has cancer, it began in her ovaries preventing her from ever having another child. She married three times after divorcing her first husband and all of the marriages failed. The husband has been released from prison and is now an alcoholic, living on the streets, and sometimes staying with his parents until the get tired of looking at him and kick him out for a spell. My point is he’s life was ruined after the secret was exposed. The little girl’s life was hell, and well, her mother is battling cancer and losing. Her father has since died as well and she has gone on with her life. She is in college now and doing very well. She had a couple guardian angels picking up the pieces when she was left broken. I don’t know how the truth came out I only know how devastating it was when it did. I only know how the secret became a huge mountain of lies that one day came crashing down. So…a secret is usually a devastating truth that will be very painful when it is exposed.
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The Truth 6 years 2 months ago #2323

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Wow, Jordan I have similar story. I think the only kind of secret that isn’t as destructive when revealed is one about oneself. Like choosing to keep a health issue about oneself private. Or keep a fear or discomfort about something or someone hidden until the right time comes to speak up. And the right time always comes. But when a secret involves anyone else it is dark and very destructive. I have had patients whose lives were torn apart by ugly secrets, covered in layers of hideous lies the protect the secret. The bigger the secret, the more lies one has to tell to keep it hidden.

Here’s my story: I was seeing a mother who was worried about her two daughters. They were both young teenage girls who went from carefree, fun-loving, beautiful girls, to depressed, withdrawn, ashamed girls. She had taken one to have an abortion her husband insisted the girl have. A year latter the younger sister became pregnant and she was so ashamed she kept it hidden until it was too late to have an abortion. Her father beat her so badly the child did not survive and she had wounds that healed but the scares will forever be a reminder of the beating she barely survived. While in the hospital she told everything. Her father was raping her and her and had been for years. She told her mother she hated her because she knew what was going on but refused to believe it. I had to agree with her. Well, her unwillingness to confront the issue ruined the lives of her two daughters, her husband went to jail for rape, attempted murder, and I think second degree murder for the death of the little boy, his son. He remains there to this day. The girls were so badly scared by what he did to them they struggle to live normal lives and form meaningful relationships. I fault the father for what he did but I also place blame on the mother because she allowed it, pretending to be unaware. It was a horrible situation and the mother is now an alcoholic, struggling to provide for herself.

To me secrets are for cowards, and the short-comings of a coward can create serious hardships in the lives of everyone around them.
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The Truth 6 years 2 months ago #2324

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I am so bad at lying. But I know how it feels to be lied on. I lost everything because of one persons lies. I almost went to prison for something I didn’t do because of one person’s vicious lies. I lost everything. The pain is vivid in my memory and forever scared me. It too me years to recover and if not for finding the Ephesus Group I don’t now where I would be today. I was freed when I was rescued by God’s real people and I will forever be grateful.
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The Truth 6 years 2 months ago #2325

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OMG I know exactly what lies and secrets can do to someone’s life. Mason you are so right when you say we have all been touched by something like this. I think secrets can be real bad too especially when a cover-up makes the victim’s situation that much harder and traumatic. I can say I know how devastating secrets and lies have been for me in my life and I can sympathize with the children in both Jordan and Rod’s story because I was a child subjected to similar issues.

I’m glad all of this sexual harassment stuff is coming up and out. It’s gone on far to long and despite all the other disgusting shit Trump has done and said, to me what stands out is how little he clearly respects and values women. I could not be married to such a man for any reason. I think like everyone else he should resign because of the things he has done to women and I’m disgusted by anyone who supports this vile man simply because he has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. All I tell my self is if this was Obama the Republicans would not have been satisfied until he was hanging from a tree on the White House lawn.
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